“I take my business very seriously,” she continues. “Like, so, so seriously. But me as a person, I don’t get embarrassed, I don’t care. I’ll stand on this table and yell if you want me to.” She is aware of the camp value attached to her projects. “I’m very aware. I’m a businesswoman. And when you’re a businesswoman it’s not always about the cool or the chic or the privileged.”

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